UKTeX Digest Friday, 19 Mar 1993 Volume 93 : Issue 11 ``The UKTeX Digest is brought to you as a free, unfunded and voluntary service of the UK TeX Users Group and the UK TeX Archive.'' Today's Topics: {Q&A}: newcommand in LaTeX Re: newcommand in LaTeX Dvips Re: Dvips Re: Subdivisions in list (LaTeX 2.09) Re: Subdivisions in list (LaTeX 2.09) Re: Subdivisions in list (LaTeX 2.09) Port of TeX to a small computer Re: Port of TeX to a small computer seminar.sty Re: Side-by-Side Setting te - update since 1989? (fwd) Including EPS files {Announcements}: TeX & MetaFont Conference at RHBNC, April 6th--8th. Administrivia: Moderators: Peter Abbott (Aston University) and David Osborne (University of Nottingham) Contributions: UKTeX@uk.ac.tex Administration, subscription and unsubscription requests: UKTeX-request@uk.ac.tex ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 11:38:19 +0000 From: Peter Abbott Subject: newcommand in LaTeX I want to use the \newcommand with 11 parameters. It complains I have more than 9. I do not have the LaTeX book available to determine how to overcome this problem. Is it an absolute limit? Peter ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1993 17:33:04 +0100 From: Schoepf%de.zib-berlin.sc@uk.ac.nsfnet-relay Subject: Re: newcommand in LaTeX Peter Abbott writes: > I want to use the \newcommand with 11 parameters. > > It complains I have more than 9. I do not have the LaTeX book available to > determine how to overcome this problem. Is it an absolute limit? It is an absolute limit of \newcommand as such, as it comes from the limit of 9 parameters for a TeX macro. However, you can program around that by using more than one step, e.g., \newcommand{\FirstStep}[9]{ ... collect the 9 arguments ... \SecondStep} \newcommand{\SecondStep}[2]{ .. collect parameters 10 and 11, execute desired actions .. } Rainer Schoepf Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin Heilbronner Strasse 10 W-1000 Berlin 31 Federal Republic of Germany or ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1993 13:13:09 +0000 From: Jon.Essex-Chemistry"Jon.Essex-Chemistry" Subject: Dvips I have a problem running dvips ver 5.482 (obtained from aston about 9 months ago). When I try to dvips a file on my 486SX PC (4 meg ram) I get an error message !can't allocate more than 64K! This file is not very large (6 pages) so I don't know why this is happening If I try dvips -a then I get a message saying my pk files are corrupt I have tried dvips386 which came with dvips but have never got it to work as it keeps failing to run saying CPU must be in REAL mode (not V86 mode) to run this program. Can anyone help? ideally I would like to get the dvips386 running on this file but would settle for just getting dvips to do the job Thanks Jon Wright ------------------------------ Date: 15 Mar 1993 11:11:32 +0000 From: spqr@uk.ac.york.minster Subject: Re: Dvips > Can anyone help? ideally I would like to get the dvips386 running > on this file but would settle for just getting dvips to do the job The later/latest version of the dvips package appears to avoid these problems, and have some enhancements anyway. Please collect from ftp.tex.ac.uk (advise me if you cannot do this, or cant find it) Sebastian Rahtz ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 09:49:38 +0700 From: "R.A.Reese" Subject: Re: Subdivisions in list (LaTeX 2.09) Martin Ward asks: > What's the date of your latex.tex / lplain.tex? It works for me! > % LATEX VERSION 2.09 <25 March 1992> > % File LPLAIN ... > \def\fmtname{lplain}\def\fmtversion{2.09-March 25, 1992} My versions both report 2.09 <18 March 1992>. The PC version was built from files fatched from the archive by me, the Unix version is SPQR's Sparc version, fetched here and just un-tarred. (R.) Allan Reese Janet: r.a.reese@uk.ac.hull Head of Applications Direct voice: +44 482 465296 Computer Centre Voice messages: +44 482 465685 Hull University Fax: +44 482 466441 Hull HU6 7RX, U.K. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 11:16:39 +0100 From: Schoepf%de.zib-berlin.sc@uk.ac.nsfnet-relay Subject: Re: Subdivisions in list (LaTeX 2.09) Allan Reese writes: > Martin Ward asks: > > What's the date of your latex.tex / lplain.tex? It works for me! > > % LATEX VERSION 2.09 <25 March 1992> > > % File LPLAIN ... > > \def\fmtname{lplain}\def\fmtversion{2.09-March 25, 1992} > > My versions both report 2.09 <18 March 1992>. The PC version was > built from files fatched from the archive by me, the Unix version > is SPQR's Sparc version, fetched here and just un-tarred. The difference between the March 18 and March 25 versons is an error correction in lplain.tex, in the \c macro, I think. Rainer Schoepf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 13:58:04 +0100 From: Schoepf%de.zib-berlin.sc@uk.ac.nsfnet-relay Subject: Re: Subdivisions in list (LaTeX 2.09) Alan Reese writes: > I am producing a long enumerated list and wanted to put subdivisions > within the list. So I tried > > \documentstyle{article} > ... > \item ... > \subsection*{Next lot} > \item > > and found that LaTeX just hangs. Unfortunately true. My private copy of latex.tex catches the loop, but there will be no provisions to get around the problem in any other way. > ----- > The pragmatic solution is to make the sections into separate lists but > preserve the list counter. There's no provision for this; I guess that > enumi etc are re-allocated as new counters every time a list is started. No, but enumerate uses the list environment and \usecounter. The latter resets the counter at the \begin{enumerate} command. > It took a little fiddling as the LaTeX User Guide only mentions \value > in the reference section, not at pp 91/92. However, this works > > \newcounter{lastitem} % in preamble > ... > \setcounter{lastitem}{\value{enumi}} > \end{description} > > \subsection*{Next lot} > \begin{enumerate} > \setcounter{enumi}{\value{lastitem}} > \item ... Seems like the best way to me.... Rainer Schoepf ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 13:17:00 +0000 From: SWILCOX1@uk.ac.poly-of-wales.computer-centre.genvax Subject: Port of TeX to a small computer Dear All, I am contemplating a port of TeX to a small computer (Sinclair QL with a 16MHz 68000 and 2Meg Ram) and would like to have access to the source for TeX in C not Pascal. I have the facility to read PC or ATARI disks but obviously not to un arc (etc) the compressed forms of the source code. Is their any way of obtaining the necessary source files in a format that I can read so that I can attempt a port. Yours, S.J.Wilcox Department of Mechanical and Manf. Eng. University of Glamorgan, West Glamorgan Wales ------------------------------ Date: 15 Mar 1993 13:42:33 +0000 From: spqr@uk.ac.york.minster Subject: Re: Port of TeX to a small computer > > I am contemplating a port of TeX to a small computer (Sinclair QL ^^^^^^^^^^^ it isnt April 1st for some weeks... > a 16MHz 68000 and 2Meg Ram) and would like to have access to the source for > TeX in C not Pascal. I have the facility to read PC or ATARI disks but > obviously not to un arc (etc) the compressed forms of the source code. > > Is their any way of obtaining the necessary source files in a format that I > can read so that I can attempt a port. I'd suggest that you acquire the web2c Unix setup, and run it on a larger machine (eg a Unix box) to generate C files, and then take those to the little chap. Or you could try Common TeX (a hand translation into C). If you can get a PC connected to JANET or Internet, you can suck the files off the Uk TeX Archive. but the details all depend on your setup Sebastian ------------------------------ Date: 16 Mar 1993 14:03:04 +0000 From: "John Rostron" Subject: seminar.sty I have downloaded the seminar files and have been trying to create the sem-code documents with little success. Firstly in the file tvz-code.sty, a number of the escape sequences in the \DoNotIndex macro calls created errors. I had to comment these out. Later, on reading seminar.doc, it balked at the starred line (L 72) claiming that \test@member was and unsefined control sequence. % \end{macrocode} % % \begin{macro}{\test@member} * % The second argument to "\test@member" is a comma-separated list. % "\test@member" checks whether the first argument is a member of this list % (after expanding both the list and the first argument), setting "\if@test" % appropriately. % \begin{macrocode} I had originally compiles an earlier versionm of sem-code, but before printing it out I discovered this new version. I now wish I hadn't! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1993 13:27:03 -0600 From: Zdenek Wagner Subject: Re: Side-by-Side Setting Side-by-side setting of original text and translation even into more languages is quite easy in LaTeX. This problem is solved by "multicolpar.sty". The "multicolpar" environment defined in this style takes the number of columns as the parameter (it will be the number of languages). Then it reads the text paragraph by paragraph and typesets them side by side. The only problem is that the page break cannot occur in the middle of a paragraph. A long time ago I downloaded this style from Niord.shsu.edu but it may also be available from other sites. Regards , ,%%%/ /` / /| /%%% / / |_/ /__/ ' | / / /%%/ /%%/ /%%/ /%%/ /\ | /| / /%%/ /%%/ /%%/ /%%/ /%%% / , / / /%%% / / /%%% / \ |/ |/ / /_/ / / / /%%% / %%%% %%% %%% ' ' %%% ' ` %%% %%/ ' ' %%% Zdenek Wagner______/ Some gateway between me and you may garble backslash. It will appear on your screen as % ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 14:03:32 +0700 From: "R.A.Reese" Subject: te - update since 1989? (fwd) I'll have to broadcast this as the message got bounced - IN307 not recognized. Forwarded message: > From rar Thu Mar 18 12:15:15 1993 > To: in307@bitnet.dhafeu11 > > I've been using te for several years with a version dated 28 Nov 89. > Thanks for a most useful program. Today we found the first bug, when > a student was working on a document file that was 62000 characters. > te hung and it was necessary to reboot the machine. Deleting a few > lines at random to reduce the file size to 59000 characters then > allowed te to load and edit. > > Do you have a more recent version of te? I don't mind if it cannot > edit large files but it ought to "bow out gracefully" and return you > to DOS. I checked the Aston archive and Nov 89 is the latest (only) > version.x > (R.) Allan Reese ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 18:26:38 +0000 From: ccaamrg@uk.ac.ucl Subject: Including EPS files I am Mike Gahan from University College London. I want to produce a LaTeX document with pictures in encapsulated postscript. I have discovered the \epsffile macro, but I would like to place several eps pictures side by side, each with its own caption, and the whole lot to be treated as a single floating figure. I am in single column mode. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1993 14:02:11 +0000 From: Philip Taylor (RHBNC) Subject: TeX & MetaFont Conference at RHBNC, April 6th--8th. The UK TeX Users' Group (UK-TuG) have organised a two-and-a-half day meeting at Royal Holloway and Bedford New College (University of London) at Egham in Surrey between April 6th and April 8th, 1993. The themes of the conference are ``TeX for non-American languages'' and ``MetaFont in Theory and Practice''. Whilst it was originally planned that the conference would be regarded as a single entity, many have asked if it would be possible to attend for only a part of the time at a proportional rate, and in order to accommodate such requests we are now pleased to offer each day as a separate option. April 6th is reserved for registration and the Conference Banquet: this will take place in the Picture Gallery (and perhaps be the last opportunity to see the Turner before it is sold!). April 7th is composed of a series of talks by a panel of internationally famous scholars: Bernard Gaulle will present ``Good Typesetting Practice for French Texts''. This talk will have the subtitle ``From Typewriting to TeX typesetting''. Starting with a short overview of the consequences of twenty years of computing upon French typography in peoples' minds, the basic rules of typing will be reviewed. Next the traditional French typographic practices will be discussed. ``Can the major points of the french typography be automatically done by TeX or LaTeX?'' A large part of the lecture will discuss that question which can be logically divided in five subparts: hyphenation, translation, typography in the line, typography within the page and specific tools. Yannis Haralambous will review existing systems for oriental language typesetting, and then discuss the specific problems associated with Khmer and Tifinagh. He may also cover standardisation of the Berber language, and discuss his implementation of a Mongol vertical typesetting system. Dominik Wujastyk will present two papers, one on hyphenation and the other on Indian scripts with TeX. In the first he will give an outline of some of the differences between the hyphenation of British and American English, and go on to describe how PATGEN was used to create a set of British English hyphenation patterns for use with TeX. Rather than dwell on the internals of TeX hyphenation, he will instead discuss the practical aspects of getting a working set of patterns, and using them with TeX. In the second, he will discuss many of the problems associated with typesetting Indian scripts; he writes: ``India is not so much a country as a sub-continent. Fourteen major languages, and countless dialects, make it a linguist's heaven. Unlike Europe, though, each major language is written in its own script. And Sanskrit, the lingua franca of India until the Raj and English, was written in all these scripts, depending on where the scribe was working. In this talk I shall survey the growing number of Indic scripts being created in Metafont, and discuss the technical and aesthetic issues raised. I shall also peer into the future and make perilous judgements about what will and what won't work in the long run!'' On April 8th, Yannis will present a tutorial on MetaFont in Theory and Practice. Yannis has an international reputation for beautiful font generation through MetaFont, and an opportunity to hear him talk on the problems of font design and implementation is not to be missed. There will be hands-on facilities for those who wish to make use of MetaFont whilst they are at RHBNC (there will, of course, be access to TeX as well...). Each day is charged at \pounds 30-00; en-suite accommodation is available at \pounds 28-50 per night; and dinner is available on 7th and 8th April at \pounds 8-00 (lunch is provided in the basic costs on 7th and 8th April, and the evening banquet occurs on April 6th). All charges exclude VAT, which should be added. As the College needs to know final numbers not later than ten days before the start of the Conference, please respond immediately by e-mail if you would like to come for one or more days (the fee for the three days is \pounds 80-00 plus VAT, for those who wish to attend all sessions). Booking forms will be provided for those responding by e-mail. 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